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The Longshot Hunter!
Delaware Park
Saturday - September 14, 2024
Simulator Virtual Bet Results
Wgr Pick Tot Bet Bet  Winning Pay    
Type Numbers Tkts Unit Amt  Numbers Amt Profit ROI
DEL-2   EXA (8/5/1/4)-(8/5/1/4) 12 $1.00 $12.00  8-4 $17.50 $5.50 46%
DEL-5   EXA (3/2/1/14/7)-(3/2/1/14/7) 20 $1.00 $20.00  3-7 $27.30 $7.30 37%
    TRI (3/2/1/14/7)-(3/2/1/14/7)-(3/2/1/14/7) 60 $0.50 $30.00  3-7-1 $54.45 $24.45 82%
DEL-6   EXA (3/8/7/2)-(3/8/7/2) 12 $1.00 $12.00  8-7 $27.90 $15.90 133%
DEL-8   WIN (7/2/4/6) 4 $2.00 $8.00  6 $62.00 $54.00 675%
DEL-9   WIN (10/1/4) 3 $2.00 $6.00  1 $12.40 $6.40 107%
    DD (7/2/4/6)-(10/1/4) 12 $1.00 $12.00  6-1 $265.10 $253.10 2109%
Simulator Race results
 
DEL-1   09/14/2024 3960ft DIRT RC4 FAST Maiden Claimer ($20K) Purse ($28.5K) 2 F PT-12:30
See original race card.
:231 :482 1:022     1:153   PP ST C1 C2 C3 STR FIN   M/L W/P B/E F/O
8  A SHAWTOWN GIRL 6 5 86½ 77   41½ 13 (deiter kell)VILLASMIL EDGAR 120 20.00 13.30  
9  KITTY OF WAR 7 6 52¼ 31½   11 23 (nazario p)CRISPIN ALEXANDER 120 10.00 14.20  
13  BUGGED OUT 11 2 72½ 66½   52 34¼ (sweezey kent)CEDENO CAROL 120 4.50 3.90  
7  SANDI SUE 5 8 2nk 1nk   31 49¼ (bailon nesv)ROBLES O 115 12.00 5% 19.00 14.40  
12  GOLDEN PHILLY 10 3 31 43   75 59¼ (ness jamie)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 120 3.50 61% 0.60 2.40  
6  VANAKA 4 4 62¼ 53½   63½ 69½ (ashby lynn)ASTUDILLO FELIX 113 10.00 9.00  
3  ADE 2 7 1nk 2nk   21 712½ (ro)LUNA PAUL 120 8.00 7% 13.80 4.50  
1  LONGA GO GO 1 11 1112½ 1114   109 816½ (smith g)HIRALDO JOHN 120 10.00 ★ 10.10  
10  UPTOWN MISS 8 9 911½ 1013   87 916½ (kravets m)CENTENO E 120 6.00 9% 9.90 20.10  
4  STRONG DECISION 3 10 1012 912   98 1021½ (houghton )HERNANDEZ A 120 15.00 55.70  
11  SANDY GIRL (ARG) 9 1 41¼ 89   1112 1131½ (gallimore tre)RIVERA D 120 15.00 11.20  
SCR  COURSE               (houghton )HERNANDEZ A 120 15.00    
SCR  MAKING BREAD               (simoff andrew)MENA E 120 15.00    
 
DEL-2   09/14/2024 5490ft DIRT RC7 FAST Claiming ($12.5K) Purse ($25.5K) 3UP ALL PT- 1:00
See original race card.
:243 :49 1:154 1:44   1:483   PP ST C1 C2 C3 STR FIN   M/L W/P B/E F/O
8  FINGER ROLL 8 6 31 2½ 1nk 11 1½ (lynch catha)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 119 2.00 52% 0.90 0.40 W
4  BALI ROLLING TIDE 4 2 63 55 54½ 32½ 2½ (werneth rober)FUENTES MARIO 120 12.00 5% 19.00 31.50 P
3  ASPIRING COMEDIAN 3 8 87 78 77 42½ 3¾ (gerlach freya)LUNDIE KEVIN 117 6.00 7.00  
6  PURE REALIZATION 6 5 52½ 66 66 64 47 (elamri )BRICENO GREGOR 117 12.00 27.20  
5  GRAFT 5 3 42 42 3½ 21 58¼ (nagle sarah)MORALES PABLO 120 3.00 22% 3.50 7.70  
1  DIAMOND MESSA 1 1 21 31 2nk 53 613 (smith rob)CRISPIN ALEXANDER 115 4.00 5% 19.00 8.00  
2  ARROGANT RIDER 2 7 76 88 87½ 711 728¼ (pickett crys)BATISTA A 122 8.00 14.00  
7  ON THE CHILL 7 4 11 1½ 41½ 821 850¼ (iannotti thoma)HIRALDO JOHN 118 10.00 54.90  
 
DEL-3   09/14/2024 5490ft TURF RC4 FIRM Maiden Claimer ($16K) Purse ($27.75K) 3UP M/F PT- 1:30
See original race card.
:223 :47 1:122 1:392   1:432   PP ST C1 C2 C3 STR FIN   M/L W/P B/E F/O
1  CAMANOE 1 4 84¾ 88 66½ 31½ 11¾ (thomas jona)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 120 3.00 31% 2.20 0.70 W
4  REDFIRE 4 9 107¼ 911 88½ 63 21¾ (lynch cat)CRISPIN ALEXANDER 120 12.00 36.70  
8  ERA 8 6 32 55½ 34 42 32½ (houghton )HERNANDEZ A 120 10.00 21% 3.70 31.20 S
11  QUEEN ROCKET 11 8 53¼ 44½ 55½ 52 43½ (aro c)HIRALDO JOHN 123 6.00 9.60  
2  MOST UNUSUAL DAY 2 3 42¼ 22 21 1½ 53½ (mcclellan e)WOLFSONT ANDREW 120 12.00 5% 19.00 6.10  
10  VAI GATTINA 10 11 118¼ 1213¼ 1010 84½ 64 (pickett crys)BATISTA A 120 15.00 59.60  
9  TARTAN GREEN (IRE) 9 10 95¼ 78 77 74 75¼ (hendriks richar)GOMEZ KEVIN 123 5.00 8% 12.30 5.00  
6  SAINT DEVEREAUX 6 1 2nk 12 11 2½ 86¾ (albert )ORTIZ ORLANDO 120 6.00 12% 7.30 15.40  
12  PULL NO PUNCHES 12 7 1nk 32½ 45 910½ 921¾ (hemingway m)ROBLES O 115 20.00 43.60  
5  SEVENS UP 5 12 1210¼ 1011¼ 1111 1115¾ 1028 (io)LUNA PAUL 120 15.00 84.10  
3  SPIN THE MOON 3 2 63¾ 66½ 99½ 1015½ 1136¾ (bailon nesvil )CEDENO CAROL 123 20.00 88.50  
7  WINE AT MIDNIGHT 7 5 73¾ 1112¾ 1217 1219¾ 1237½ (brion keri)CENTENO E 120 15.00 21.60  
SCR  DESTIN FOR DRAMA               (castillo miche)AGUILAR JEAN 116 20.00    
SCR  MIDNIGHT IN PRAGUE               (morris r)CONNER TYLER 123 20.00    
 
DEL-4   09/14/2024 5490ft DIRT RC9 FAST Starter Allowance ($8K) Purse ($50K) 3UP ALL PT- 2:00
See original race card.
:242 :491 1:142 1:394   1:44   PP ST C1 C2 C3 STR FIN   M/L W/P B/E F/O
4  FREEDOM ROAD 2 3 31½ 3½ 31 14 16½ (sillaman ri)WOLFSONT ANDREW 124 5.00 39% 1.60 0.40 W
2  STREET GLIDE 1 1 63 62¼ 42½ 34½ 26½ (arriagada j)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 124 8.00 6% 15.40 5.20 P
8  MR MAC QUHAE 6 8 87 84¼ 64 45 37 (richards )HERNANDEZ A 124 6.00 7.30  
11  HORNBEAM 7 7 76 74¼ 74½ 66 48 (kravets bru)ROBLES O 117 15.00 46.30  
5  GOLDEN JUAN 3 2 11 1½ 1½ 24 512¾ (avila c)BATISTA A 120 5.00 6.00  
6  JAYJAYDEE 4 4 52½ 51¾ 53 77 613½ (kravets m)GOMEZ KEVIN 124 10.00 30% 2.30 28.60  
7  SWIFT TAP 5 6 42½ 2½ 2½ 56 713½ (diaz jorge)VASQUEZ WILFRED 122 10.00 5% 19.00 22.60  
12  SAN ANDRES 8 5 21 4¾ 85 810 822 (perkinson c)VILLASMIL EDGAR 120 20.00 78.30  
SCR  KING OF HOLLYWOOD               (hernand)GONZALEZ LUIS 122 4.50    
SCR  MY DANNY BOY               (strauss bev)ASTUDILLO FELIX 115 20.00    
SCR  VINE JET               (padilla-precia)ADORNO ABNER 120 8.00    
SCR  YES SIR COLONEL               (mosco robert)HADDOCK DEXTER 120 15.00    
 
DEL-5   09/14/2024 5490ft TURF RC6 FIRM Optional Claiming ($16K) Purse ($30K) 3UP ALL PT- 2:30
See original race card.
:232 :474 1:123 1:374   1:413   PP ST C1 C2 C3 STR FIN   M/L W/P B/E F/O
3  UNCLE TRULY 3 2 1½ 1nk 1½ 12 16½ (arriagada j)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 117 4.00 48% 1.10 0.40 W
7  ROLLERCOASTER MAN 6 3 53½ 52¾ 53 42¼ 26½ (raven kerri)CEDENO CAROL 120 10.00 5% 19.00 38.00 P
1  K'S PICK 1 11 42 41¼ 31½ 22 37½ (smith g)CENTENO E 120 10.00 7% 12.90 5.20 S
9  HUSBAND MATERIAL 8 10 1110 107¼ 105½ 73¾ 48¼ (simoff an)HERNANDEZ A 120 15.00 29.00  
6  SILVERBULLETTWENTY 5 7 97 85¼ 84 63¾ 58½ (davis s)ORTIZ ORLANDO 117 8.00 19.80  
2  GO TAKE CHARGE 2 1 64½ 63¼ 42 52¾ 68½ (neilson kathy)MENA E 122 5.00 18% 4.70 12.20  
14  KING TSUNAMI 11 4 2½ 2nk 2½ 32 78¾ (wyatt tod)RODRIGUEZ R 124 8.00 5% 19.00 13.00  
10  WORD FOR WORD 9 6 74½ 75¼ 94½ 85¾ 810½ (rodriguez dari)COTTO L 122 15.00 16.50  
8  HIS RIGHTS 7 8 86 96¼ 73½ 96¾ 912¾ (sanchez-p)CRISPIN ALEXANDER 119 20.00 43.70  
5  THE COLORA KID 4 9 109 117¾ 117 108¾ 1015½ (smith coll)MENDOZA JHONATAN 120 20.00 ######  
11  LANDSLIDE IS HOME 10 5 31 31 63 1115¾ 1126½ (geralis ema)WOLFSONT ANDREW 121 20.00 89.50  
SCR  CODE NAME BRODY               (gerlach freya)LUNDIE KEVIN 120 30.00    
SCR  MIDNIGHT AWARD               (solis jacinto)ADORNO ABNER 119 5.00    
SCR  TRANSCENDENTAL               (thomas jona)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 117 12.00    
 
DEL-6   09/14/2024 3960ft DIRT RC4 FAST Maiden Claimer ($20K) Purse ($28.5K) 2 ALL PT- 3:00
See original race card.
:232 :481 1:013     1:144   PP ST C1 C2 C3 STR FIN   M/L W/P B/E F/O
8  LET'S HAVE A PARTY 7 2 2nk 1nk   11 15½ (allard edwa)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 120 5.00 12% 7.10 2.70 W
7  SKINNY JOEY 6 5 31 31½   32½ 25½ (simoff an)HERNANDEZ A 120 10.00 11% 8.20 6.80 P
5  NEVER TILL NOW 4 8 87¼ 65½   44 38 (ashby lynn)ROBLES O 115 8.00 12.70  
2  ENGLISH DADDY 2 4 1nk 2nk   21 48¼ (pecoraro antho)HIRALDO JOHN 120 8.00 10% 9.10 2.60  
9  RUNNING STATUE 8 1 62¼ 42½   54 510¾ (iannotti thomas)GOMEZ KEVIN 120 6.00 3.50  
6  GUILTED 5 6 52 76   65 612¾ (na)LUNA PAUL 120 8.00 11.30  
3  BOBBY ROCKY JAKE 3 3 41½ 54½   79 722¾ (simone michael)CEDENO CAROL 120 3.00 23% 3.40 6.30  
1  BABY ANTONIO 1 7 76¼ 812   817 834¼ (rodriguez j)ASTUDILLO FELIX 113 12.00 37.20  
SCR  VAMOS CARLITOS               (thomas)MARAGH RAMSAY 120 4.00    
 
DEL-7   09/14/2024 5610ft TURF RC10 FIRM Allowance Purse ($61.5K) 3UP ALL PT- 3:30
See original race card.
:241 :49 1:132 1:374   1:434   PP ST C1 C2 C3 STR FIN   M/L W/P B/E F/O
4  RIGHTHERE RIGHTNOW 3 4 54 53½ 63¼ 42½ 1½ (stidham michae)CEDENO CAROL 117 12.00 22.40  
7  A WESTERN YARN 6 11 2½ 21 2½ 21 2½ (delacour arnaud)CENTENO E 120 8.00 19% 4.10 1.70 P
6  TWO BY TWO 5 1 1010 109½ 106½ 85¼ 3½ (ness jamie)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 120 5.00 4.30  
3  TWO STEPPIN KLUKI 2 5 1½ 11 1½ 11 4¾ (cudworth pau)BATISTA A 120 8.00 51.90  
12  CLASS PHOTO 11 9 32½ 32 32 32 51½ (delacour ar)WOLFSONT ANDREW 117 15.00 13.90  
11  LEGENDAIRE 10 8 75 74 73¼ 63½ 61¾ (perkins b)HERNANDEZ A 120 15.00 29.80  
2  SAISIR LE JOUR 1 6 87 85½ 84¾ 53½ 72½ (sanchez-pinero )MENA E 117 20.00 ######  
10  FATIMA'S BLESSING 9 7 1217 1217½ 1213½ 117¼ 83¾ (dini mike)ROBLES O 115 12.00 8% 11.90 15.30  
13  CAP'N DUSTY 12 12 1116 1112½ 118½ 128¼ 910¾ (nagle sarah)MORALES PABLO 121 10.00 13% 6.70 10.30  
8  JHIRSCH 7 2 43 42½ 42 95¾ 1011¾ (motion graham)GOMEZ KEVIN 117 3.50 29% 2.50 3.80  
9  TREVESSO 8 10 99 98½ 95 106¼ 1119½ (lynch cat)RODRIGUEZ R 117 10.00 9.00  
5  SAMYAZA 4 3 64 63½ 53 73¾ 12100 (nambo ce)VILLALOBOS ISMERIO 120 20.00 5% 19.00 33.10  
SCR  WHAT DOES IT TAKE               (ness jamie)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 120 2.00    
 
DEL-8   09/14/2024 5490ft DIRT RC9 FAST Starter Allowance Purse ($100K) 3UP ALL PT- 4:00
See original race card.
:231 :472 1:14 1:411   1:453   PP ST C1 C2 C3 STR FIN   M/L W/P B/E F/O
6  FOLE'S NOTION 6 7 76½ 65½ 3½ 11½ 14½ (rathman e)CRISPIN ALEXANDER 118 10.00 5% 19.00 30.00 W
1  PAPPY'S REVENGE 1 1 33½ 32½ 41 21½ 24½ (robertson)RODRIGUEZ A 119 4.00 2.90  
3  RAINY SKIES 3 2 65½ 76½ 51¼ 32½ 37¾ (magee kiero)ROBLES O 112 6.00 5.80  
7  MR. HUSTLE 7 6 54½ 53½ 1nk 54 48¼ (ness jamie)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 118 2.00 37% 1.70 1.20  
4  GOODAFTERNOONOSCAR 4 4 21½ 22 2nk 43½ 58¾ (mancilla )HERNANDEZ A 122 8.00 13% 6.70 15.90  
2  RICCIO 2 3 44 43 63¼ 65 69 (sillaman richar)CENTENO E 124 3.00 20% 3.90 3.60  
5  HELMS DEEP (GB) 5 5 11½ 12 75¼ 715 735¾ (sanchez-salomon)MENA E 118 8.00 21.10  
 
DEL-9   09/14/2024 5610ft TURF RC9 FIRM Starter Allowance Purse ($100K) 3UP M/F PT- 4:30
See original race card.
:24 :474 1:114 1:371   1:431   PP ST C1 C2 C3 STR FIN   M/L W/P B/E F/O
1  PRINCESS JAVONCIA 1 3 63½ 75½ 74½ 32 11½ (merryman elizab)CENTENO E 118 10.00 8% 12.30 5.20 W
11  DOWNTOWN KATIE 9 10 1011¼ 912½ 96½ 42¼ 21½ (gorham mich)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 122 15.00 17.20  
12  A PRIMERA VISTA 10 6 11 1½ 11 12 33 (raven kerri)CEDENO CAROL 115 6.00 ★ 2.10 S
8  ONE SILK STOCKING 6 5 42½ 42½ 42½ 62¾ 44¼ (ramirez r)RODRIGUEZ R 118 10.00 ★ 5.00  
4  INANNA'S QUEST 3 1 52½ 54 53½ 52¾ 54¼ (ashby lyn)HERNANDEZ A 118 15.00 5% 19.00 11.50  
5  CORINNA 4 7 73¾ 64½ 63½ 73¾ 66 (matz michae)WOLFSONT ANDREW 117 12.00 9.70  
3  STERN CHASER 2 2 31½ 31½ 32 22 77 (matz michael)BATISTA A 118 6.00 7.90  
7  PRECIOUS AVARY 5 4 21 2½ 21 84 89 (shaw tim)GONZALEZ SILVESTRE 120 12.00 9.30  
10  PRIYANKA 8 9 85¾ 86½ 86 95 910¾ (motion graham)MENA E 118 5.00 64% 0.60 7.90  
9  PURE MAGIC GIRL 7 8 97¼ 1012½ 109½ 107 1014¼ (rodriguez)CRISPIN ALEXANDER 115 20.00 69.40  
SCR  MALIBU BEAUTY               (capuano gar)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 124 1.20    
SCR  PAPER MANSION               (ness jamie)WOLFSONT ANDREW 118 4.50    
SCR  TIRUPATI               (thomas jonathan)CENTENO E 115 15.00    
SCR  WELL INTO               (thomas jonathan)CENTENO E 118 6.00    
 
DEL-10   09/14/2024 3960ft DIRT RC6 FAST Optional Claiming ($8K) Purse ($25.5K) 3UP M/F PT- 5:00
See original race card.
:223 :47 1:001     1:133   PP ST C1 C2 C3 STR FIN   M/L W/P B/E F/O
7  TWEET AWAY ROBIN 7 1 42 31   2nk 11¾ (na)LUNA PAUL 125 8.00 6.00  
6  MARION GRACE 6 2 1nk 11   1nk 21¾ (moore michae)HERNANDEZ ANDY 121 2.50 37% 1.70 1.90 P
5  UTTERLY ENCHANTING 5 6 74¾ 54   42¼ 32¼ (mancilla ca)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 121 3.00 21% 3.80 2.50 S
8  BLAME CATALAYA 8 3 64½ 64½   73¾ 45¾ (beattie c)RODRIGUEZ R 123 5.00 7.30  
2  FANCY PRINCESS 2 7 53 43   53¼ 59¼ (nazario p)CRISPIN ALEXANDER 125 8.00 12.40  
1  ME DARLIN KATHLEEN 1 8 86¾ 86½   63¼ 610¾ (kravets b)HERNANDEZ A 121 6.00 21% 3.90 5.90  
3  R AVERIE LYNN 3 4 31½ 21   32 712¼ (gorham michael )CENTENO E 121 8.00 12.00  
4  MATTY BO 4 5 2nk 75½   810¾ 827¼ (diaz jorge)ASTUDILLO FELIX 118 12.00 5% 19.00 33.90  
 
DEL-11   09/14/2024 3630ft DIRT RC5 FAST Maiden Sp Wt Purse ($60K) 3UP ALL PT- 5:30
See original race card.
:223 :473 1:003     1:072   PP ST C1 C2 C3 STR FIN   M/L W/P B/E F/O
7  KHOOLZAN 7 4 41¾ 31   1½ 11½ (smith g)CENTENO E 121 2.00 27% 2.70 1.50 W
  (by KHOZAN out of TWOCATSINTHEYARD by ANDIRON)
8  HEAD OF THE CLASS 8 1 21½ 21   3½ 21½ (pickett crystal)NEGRON LUIS 121 3.50 40% 1.50 3.10 P
  (by AWESOME SLEW out of CASH RESERVE by DISTORTED HUMOR)
3  MATT'S LUCK 3 5 78¾ 76¾   66 32¼ (robertson)CRISPIN ALEXANDER 121 6.00 10.30  
  (by OUTWORK out of SEPULVEDA PASS by UNUSUAL HEAT)
1  GOOD AS HE GETS 1 8 31½ 41½   41 44¾ (allard edwa)RODRIGUEZ JAMIE 121 3.50 10% 9.30 3.00  
  (by KHOZAN out of BROWN EYED WOMAN by DE NIRO)
2  BE THA JUDGE 2 7 89¾ 87¼   55 55 (bentley fennek)CEDENO CAROL 121 10.00 18.60  
  (by GOLDEN LAD out of SMART JERSEY by JERSEY TOWN)
4  MR LIAM AND ALAN 4 2 11½ 11   2½ 65¾ (de)LUNA PAUL 121 10.00 5% 19.00 16.00  
  (by MADEFROMLUCKY out of HANGINGWITHSONNY by FIRST SAMURAI)
6  LITTLE TROUBLE 6 3 51¾ 51¾   77½ 711½ (robertson m)ROBLES O 116 8.00 8.40  
  (by VIOLENCE out of ONE HOT SENORITA by SHARP HUMOR)
5  MY LUCKY ACE 5 6 62¾ 63¾   89½ 822½ (deiter ly)MENA E 121 20.00 44.80  
  (by MADEFROMLUCKY out of DELIGHTFUL LIZ by LIMEHOUSE)
 
 
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